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Re: Are there people...

By lellow2011
6/22/2016 1:26 am
Brrexkl wrote:
I am sure there are many players in the Passing Game that are over looked.

But I have some issues with the Passing Game. Like WIDE OPEN players never being looked at until the play sinks like the H.M.S. Titanic.

Also, this involves a really good QB (ironically enough, of which I have). Those cost and don't grow on trees. And then even a really good QB can play really poorly (mine has) due to a variety of factors from OL to Targets (WR/TE) to Play Book.

For a Running Game, theoretically you need a Running Back, then 5 OL and a TE that focus on STR and Run Block. That's... well, pretty much it. And Discipline, because a Holding Call or False Start is going to kill your drive 90% of the time it happens. So that's very important as well.

I'm not sure how important WR Blocking is to the Running Game, hard to gauge since they are off screen and you can't really watch the engages... but it's simply enough to find OL/TE to move to WR, and there are a SURPRSING number of WR with amazing STR/RB. Now, they likely **** at things like SPD/ACC/Catch... but we aren't sending them out to catch, so what do we care. We just want that STR/Run Block.

So while it is far from the only way, I think between Run and Pass that Run is the easier one to build. Between Run, Pass or Mix I feel Mixed will take the absolute most talent, and finding a team of really 'balanced' players would be very tough, while having Specialty types would hamper your build (Think the 100 STR/20 RB/80 PB LT next to the 100 STR/80 RB/20 PB LG... or how hard it might be to find a 100 STR/80 RB/80 PB at all 5 spots).

Now I get I'm taking a VERY simplistic view, I really do. But I think this may be the easiest way, and the quickest way to build the most effective team one can.


This isn't quite true, you don't need really talented players at every position, you just need guys that do certain things well. I've had plenty of 70 rated HBs run for over 1000 yards with good rushing averages. I have a team in Fake Pigskin that was number 1 in total offense with a bunch of 60-70 rated offensive linemen. My team in MFN2 went 12-4 with an 83 QB, 88 HB, 93 WR, and 81WR and a bunch of bums on offense and only 2-3 decent defensive players. It's all about finding guys that can do a certain thing well and using them correctly. I've seen owners with a full compliment of guys I have rated in the 60s throw for over 5k-6k yards.

Re: Are there people...

By pamour
6/22/2016 9:08 am
I lost many first down conversions because I have two receivers in close by, one open and one covered and my very intelligent QB would prefer to go to the one covered. I mean the are very close to each other, No QB could not miss that...

I think put in a code if 2 Receivers are in the same zone, then hit the one that's open, if both are covered, then go to the preferred receiver.

Re: Are there people...

By lellow2011
6/22/2016 9:38 am
pamour wrote:
I lost many first down conversions because I have two receivers in close by, one open and one covered and my very intelligent QB would prefer to go to the one covered. I mean the are very close to each other, No QB could not miss that...

I think put in a code if 2 Receivers are in the same zone, then hit the one that's open, if both are covered, then go to the preferred receiver.


Everyone has to deal with this, it's not like it's inclusive to your team. Yes it certainly needs work but for the time being you just have to try and find ways around it.

Re: Are there people...

By Brrexkl
6/22/2016 10:11 am
To which I have to ask... you were a Play Off Team. How far did you go?

What I'm asking is, could it be the case that you simply were better than him?

The reason I'm asking is this. The recipe shows you CAN have amazing Regular Season Success, but in the Regular Season unless in a brutal Conference or Tough Schedule, you may only see say 6 Play Off Teams.

So I'm trying to find the ceiling. 16-0 in Season is a really high ceiling, but as San Diego's old HC learned, getting to the Play Offs can get you fired if it's a First Round bounce every Season.

Had you not keyed and went all out, do you think you'd still have Won? I mean sure, he'd have done a little better... but if your CBs were simply better than the WRs you already had the advantage, what you did was INCREASE that advantage. Your Pass Rushers were likely better than the Average Pass Rusher he faced during the Season, so he likely faced more Pressure than he had all year against you.

Things like that are what I'm looking at.

By the way, at this point I'd take starting with Regular Season Success at the trade off of a Play Off Team shutting it down... but I like to look beyond as well.

Re: Are there people...

By MC_Hammer
6/29/2016 8:39 pm
Multiple factors to consider here:
-Focusing on one thing makes you more predictable
-A good coach will notice your tendencies and game plan to stop them
-Being one dimensional raises your risk of injuries to the often used player(s)
Likely others that I cannot think of at the moment as well.

As for the team losing in the playoffs, perhaps no one (or few) actually game planned against the team in the regular season (I rarely GP for regular season games myself if my team has enough talent) but did in the playoffs.