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Re: Power Rankings Question

By TheWitchHunter
12/15/2024 10:17 pm
when viewing power rankings, there is a value assigned in () next to each team.
1. What does this number represent?
2. How is it calculated?

EG:
Arizona Cardinals (3.2)
Last edited at 12/15/2024 10:18 pm

Re: Power Rankings Question

By Mcbolt55
12/15/2024 10:26 pm
It’s the point spread used for the +/- on the weekly schedule to determine those odds. Aka home team gets 3 point bias, then those scores modify it from there. That’s how a +7 versus a -7 becomes a 14 point spread, or how an ok team on the road is called even against a losing team at home. How it is calculated based on rosters and performance I don’t think anybody besides jdb knows for certain.
Last edited at 12/15/2024 10:31 pm

Re: Power Rankings Question

By Cjfred68
12/16/2024 9:41 pm
Mcbolt55 wrote:
It’s the point spread used for the +/- on the weekly schedule to determine those odds. Aka home team gets 3 point bias, then those scores modify it from there. That’s how a +7 versus a -7 becomes a 14 point spread, or how an ok team on the road is called even against a losing team at home. How it is calculated based on rosters and performance I don’t think anybody besides jdb knows for certain.


I've been trying to figure out the power rankings for many years until I finally gave up out of frustration and created my own.

The best guess I can give you is it doesn't reflect current week results and probably takes some average of the past 32 games which is the only thing I can think off based on weird results.

For example, a 7-1 team ranked 10th overall beats an 8-0 team ranked 3rd overall and the 7-1 team drops 2 spots while the losing 8-0 team shoots up to #1. And yes, that's a real example among many odd things I've observed in the last 5 years.

McBolt is correct about how the point spread is calculated by using the ranking score with one disclaimer being that only a max of +/- 14 is used in MFN!

Nobody is ever favorite over +14 or over a 14 point dog! That's locked in kinda like a 60 yard fieldgoal is generally the max except in very, very rare occasions.

36 seasons played in the Quick and the Dead league and 60 is the longest fieldgoal.

36 seasons played in the XFL league and 2 kickers have a 61 yarder.

That's a cumulative total of 18,432 games played and just 2 fieldgoals over 60 yards or a 0.01% chance per game.

The USFL is around 40 seasons in and zero over 60 yards.

Last edited at 12/16/2024 9:50 pm

Re: Power Rankings Question

By TheWitchHunter
12/20/2024 8:49 pm
Thx, folks! Footnote: i set my min max fg at 53/56 for the reasons mentioned above.

Re: Power Rankings Question

By Mcbolt55
12/20/2024 9:14 pm
TheWitchHunter wrote:
Thx, folks! Footnote: i set my min max fg at 53/56 for the reasons mentioned above.


Is that the default setting? I can’t remember, but I imagine whatever that set point is has a lot to do with the sim even thinking about attempting the longest kicks…

Re: Power Rankings Question

By Cjfred68
12/20/2024 9:50 pm
Mcbolt55 wrote:
TheWitchHunter wrote:
Thx, folks! Footnote: i set my min max fg at 53/56 for the reasons mentioned above.


Is that the default setting? I can’t remember, but I imagine whatever that set point is has a lot to do with the sim even thinking about attempting the longest kicks…


There are 2 sliders for normal fieldgoal distance and end of half/game max distance and 65 is the max for both. I typically set mine to 55/65 but as I stated above, over 60 is exceedingly rare!