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Are there cheats out there?

By Wolfkill
2/16/2020 2:48 pm
Just curios really.
I know (for a fact) that some of the top players have as many as 7/9 CB's and a plethora of "off" position players.
I'm not of the variety to rat on others or care to indulge in that nonsense...but
I'd just like to see a forum where everyone can get together and post that kind of stuff, you know?
Take it easy, young people..I know what you're going to say. No one cheats or exploits the system. That's ok..! This thread is for you.

Sincerely,
The mediocre player-

Re: Are there cheats out there?

By setherick
2/16/2020 4:31 pm
Let's define "cheat"?

There are a ton of obvious exploits in the game right now:

1) Punt blocks (put the fastest plays at the four DEs)
2) 212 FL Hitch (only two defenses slow it down, none put pressure on the QB against it) ... you can run it with about any WR because the DB is just going to "fall down"
3) 221 passing plays with a 90+ SP WR (preferably 95+)
4) 113 Flare Medium with a 90+ SP / 90+ RR WR at RB and a 80+ SP / 80+ B&R TE (RB clears the LB most of the time, the rest of the time the TE destroys the seam)
5) 46 Heavy Cover 2 with a 80+ SP / 80+ PR DL at the LDE spot against the 203 and 113
6) 4-3 Flat Zone against the 203 and 113 with 80+ SP / 80+ Zone LBs at the OLB positions (shuts down the run and the pass)

Then there are the illogical things about the game right now:

1) Weight controls SP
2) AC does not matter until the player is 220+, and then it doesn't compensate for low weight, fast players (a 90 SP / 10 AC 197 WR will out accelerate a 85 SP / 90 AC 237 LB ... badly)
3) The open receiver nerf
4) The long pass receiver nerf
5) The long pass OL nerf

Granted nerf 3-5 are compensating for the fact that 60+ Accuracy QBs hit every target, on target, every time.
Last edited at 2/16/2020 4:33 pm

Re: Are there cheats out there?

By Lamba
2/17/2020 12:24 am
Wolfkill wrote:
Just curios really.
I know (for a fact) that some of the top players have as many as 7/9 CB's and a plethora of "off" position players.

Personally; I can't tell my players to shed a few pounds, so I put most of my backfield as CB's to make them lighter and faster.

Same with RB's turned WR's. If I could just set a target weight, I wouldn't have to move them around.

Re: Are there cheats out there?

By raymattison21
2/17/2020 1:59 pm
Lamba wrote:
Wolfkill wrote:
Just curios really.
I know (for a fact) that some of the top players have as many as 7/9 CB's and a plethora of "off" position players.

Personally; I can't tell my players to shed a few pounds, so I put most of my backfield as CB's to make them lighter and faster.

Same with RB's turned WR's. If I could just set a target weight, I wouldn't have to move them around.


In drafts I find some DEs under 270 pounds that can be converted in to high grade DBs. If they got stuck at 255+ more often....I wouldn't make this move so often.

Like seth said in #1 and #2 for the illogical things. IDK if a new user would logically think to look for DBs where i search for them and #1 and #2 is all throughout the game....squewing everything.....but when drafting , i will camp these guys at CB or safety and if they bust or do not trend in weight fast enough they will just be Lbers..

If #1 and #2 were fixed none of this stuff would be so effective or counter intuitive...when compared to how other games are set up. Its not that a dont want a DE that can cover but there is no point right now to have one. At 276 pounds they are slow due to thier weight in comparison to say a FB to cover him the same way it would happen in the nfl. Put him at SLB(241#s) and he will cover that FB just fine. Tackles will now push him around in the run game, but now hes a better pass rusher? None of this should be that sensitive..

The way we have it set up a 70 pound weight loss can effectivley increased a players 40 time by at least .5 seconds. Really any speed agilitly drill would benefit the same because smaller is exponentially quicker and faster...and you fatigue slower...

Just playing with the speed of zero a little in beta has made smaller a bit slower in comparison. For me that would lower the need to make them smaller but Weight still has too strong of an effect on a players overall speed and height needs to matter more in that final calculation.

Our players pregeneration are within nfl ranges of sizes. I just look for the ratings that fit my scheme..weight matters above a 70 pound range, but other than that these players are a "cheat " of some sort...

If these big guys trend down in weight and are still strong enough.... routinely i will play them 20 or 30 pounds underweight all season long....It just doesn't counter the actual ground they cover in the same amount of time....compard to how much ground they give up vs the run. A FS at WLB is legit enough for me under 4.5....4.6 maybe not

Re: Are there cheats out there?

By setherick
2/17/2020 6:53 pm
#1 and #2 are the reasons I wrote this: https://champions.myfootballnow.com/community/3/4277?page=1#27278