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Player Volatility

By Kababmaster
2/15/2018 7:24 am
Is the players volatility over the course of his whole career ? Can it change up or down after a few seasons in a league?

Re: Player Volatility

By tribewriter
2/15/2018 9:55 am
After his first training camp, you will know what direction his ratings will trend. If they trend downward initially, they will continue to trend downward.

Re: Player Volatility

By Kababmaster
2/15/2018 10:58 am
Thanks tribewriter. So if they trend downward on his first training camp, the chances are high that he is a bust regardless of vol ? If he rises the chances are that he might continue to rise until perhaps mid-career....am I think along the correct lines ?

Re: Player Volatility

By lellow2011
2/15/2018 11:20 am
Kababmaster wrote:
Thanks tribewriter. So if they trend downward on his first training camp, the chances are high that he is a bust regardless of vol ? If he rises the chances are that he might continue to rise until perhaps mid-career....am I think along the correct lines ?


Just because they bust does not mean that they are useless. I have had quite a few guys drop 5-10 points in that first training camp and end up having very productive careers.

Re: Player Volatility

By tribewriter
2/15/2018 2:52 pm
lellow2011 wrote:
Kababmaster wrote:
Thanks tribewriter. So if they trend downward on his first training camp, the chances are high that he is a bust regardless of vol ? If he rises the chances are that he might continue to rise until perhaps mid-career....am I think along the correct lines ?


Just because they bust does not mean that they are useless. I have had quite a few guys drop 5-10 points in that first training camp and end up having very productive careers.


What he said. They can drop in potential and still end up being a key player for your team.

Re: Player Volatility

By raymattison21
2/15/2018 5:07 pm
Kababmaster wrote:
Thanks tribewriter. So if they trend downward on his first training camp, the chances are high that he is a bust regardless of vol ? If he rises the chances are that he might continue to rise until perhaps mid-career....am I think along the correct lines ?


the volatility controls the possible rise or fall in potential . Like this

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
8/22/2016 9:31 am
It follows a normal distribution curve, players within 1 standard deviation will be pretty stable, 2 std deviations might be called a bust if you draft them high or a boom if you draft them low, into the 3rd standard deviation you most certainly will be considered a boom or a bust. So given that you have 68 percent of players will be pretty stable (decreasing in stability as they reach the end of the first standard deviation), with about 13% of players having a small boom and 13% having a small bust, and the remaining 6% will be split evenly with 3% being a major boom and 3% a major bust. The volatility rating on the player card is a uniform distribution that is mapped along this normal distribution curve. So the difference between a 25-volatility and a 50-volatility is smaller than the difference between a 50-volatility and a 75-volatility

every player and rating is different , in terms of the rate it will fall or rise. The distance between current and future potential is what dictates the size of the jumps each camp.

The latest changes have boosted the effectiveNess of the first few camps. Most players should have realized their top potential by then . Whereas a few seasons ago it could take 11 or 12 seasons for players to reach thier maximum rating in a specific category .

Re: Player Volatility

By Kababmaster
2/15/2018 5:16 pm
Very helpful stuff, thanks.

Re: Player Volatility

By Kababmaster
2/15/2018 5:40 pm
Sorry for going on about this, but is vol relative to Training Camp only ? Rookie 'A' starting 16 games in regular season at MLB with vol 0 will progress the same as Rookie 'B' starting 16 games in regular season at MLB with vol 98.

Re: Player Volatility

By raymattison21
2/15/2018 5:59 pm
Kababmaster wrote:
Sorry for going on about this, but is vol relative to Training Camp only ? Rookie 'A' starting 16 games in regular season at MLB with vol 0 will progress the same as Rookie 'B' starting 16 games in regular season at MLB with vol 98.


don't worry.....the system is not totally intuitive. More often than not Jdb and users are take the time to explain everything

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
12/08/2016 1:17 pm
Your coaching staff influences the movement of the "current" values - the better your coaching staff scores, the faster your players will reach their potential. Volatility influences the movement of the "future" values.