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"Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
11/12/2014 7:17 am
I've received an increase of folks PM-ing me about some relatively obscure bugs that seem to be occurring at an increased frequency, among them the "wrong way willie" bug as I like to call it, as well as some holding penalty strangeness. I wanted to address some of these bugs here just hopefully put your mind at ease and let you know that they are being addressed.

First, I do want to state that this post is not a "please stop bothering me with your bug reports" - I actually wonder if these bugs have been occurring more frequently than they've been reported, and I need you guys to let me know when you see bugs like these because it helps me identify how to prioritize what I'm going to tackle next.

I believe the "wrong way willie" and holding call bugs have been fixed in the game engine version 0.2.1. You can see what game engine your league is using by looking at the footer; except for MFN-1, the game engines will upgrade at the end of each season. The "wrong way willie" bug was a bit of a challenge and has been on my radar for a while; the problem has been that it occurred extremely infrequently. I have a testing sim engine that runs a full season every day, and in tracking down this bug it would take several days for it to occur - and several times of it occurring for me to track down why it was happening. But I think I finally found it.

Due to the complexities of the game engine, I have a policy not to push updates to any existing game engine version unless I feel it is safe enough that there is no chance that it will break or cause adverse issues. The exception is MFN-1, where patches are released immediately for real-world testing. The "wrong way willie" bug is a huge bug, but was happening so infrequently and the fix did have some measure of potential to change the running logic (it was a bug in the code that determined a runner's cutback path), which may break some strategies - so I decided not to release it in any leagues midseason. This is probably the most egregious bug that has occurred since the game was released, and I really hope it has been fixed.

One other bug that does seem to occur frequently is the quarterback dropping back and then just standing there waiting to get tackled. This also has been difficult to track down but I'm hopeful that it has been fixed in the 0.2.1 release.

Thanks, everyone, for your patience as we work through these issues. I sincerely apologize for them and please know that there is no one who gets more frustrated when they occur than me.

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By Davesgang
12/18/2014 6:13 am
Just had a punt returner turn back at the 1 yard line. Mfn2 cincy first punt return of the game.

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By Gustoon - League Admin
2/27/2015 6:39 am
Cust-9 is still simmining after 3 hours, does this mean OT? ;)

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
2/27/2015 7:56 am
Gustoon wrote:
Cust-9 is still simmining after 3 hours, does this mean OT? ;)


Sometimes when multiple sims are running one will get stuck, but it usually resolves before too long. If it doesn't (usually because it crashes) I'll get some sort of alert and will investigate it - but that hasn't happened for quite a while.

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By Gustoon - League Admin
2/27/2015 9:35 am
thanks

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By MrBronk
3/05/2015 10:22 pm
Is this a bug or am I miss understanding the rules of the NFL. I recently had a game where I had Detroit backed up to the one yard line. On the next play my DE cause and recovered a fumble in the end zone. My team was credit a safety, but shouldn't that been a touchdown? This happened in the first preseason game of legue 11 with Denver vs Detroit.

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By jdavidbakr - Site Admin
3/05/2015 10:28 pm
MrBronk wrote:
Is this a bug or am I miss understanding the rules of the NFL. I recently had a game where I had Detroit backed up to the one yard line. On the next play my DE cause and recovered a fumble in the end zone. My team was credit a safety, but shouldn't that been a touchdown? This happened in the first preseason game of legue 11 with Denver vs Detroit.


Looks like you didn't get a clean recovery and the ball went out of the back of the end zone - which is why it was called a safety.

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By MrBronk
3/06/2015 11:46 pm
oh, thanks

Re: "Wrong Way Willie" and other bugs

By Gustoon - League Admin
3/07/2015 6:33 am
Spiking the ball:

On Our own 35 ....So we have just passed the ball for a 2 yd gain, its now 2nd and 8 with 1:17 on the clock with 1 TO remaining, surely the game logic doesn't call a spike on 2nd down? That just seems absurd, or is this a bug?

Click here for a potty play .. http://cust12.myfootballnow.com/watch/47#9730